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		<title>By: MB</title>
		<link>http://varmintbites.com/2008/01/22/the-pit-is-great-and-theyre-open-for-lunch/#comment-1879</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Oct 2008 14:08:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yesterday was my birthday and last night had to be the best birthday party I have ever had.  Family and friends gathered at The Pit to celebrate and my God it was delicious.  There is a certain way I like my hog (i.e. chop up some of the skin and throw it on in with the cue) and Mr. Mitchell made sure that happened.  There was a birthday serenade by Mr. Mitchell and his sidekick Turnip who blows a mean harmonica.  

If you&#039;re looking a place to cater your upcoming holiday gathering, let me recommend The Pit.  If you&#039;re down in the dumps, let me recommend The Pit.  If you&#039;re happy and you know it, let me recommend The Pit.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yesterday was my birthday and last night had to be the best birthday party I have ever had.  Family and friends gathered at The Pit to celebrate and my God it was delicious.  There is a certain way I like my hog (i.e. chop up some of the skin and throw it on in with the cue) and Mr. Mitchell made sure that happened.  There was a birthday serenade by Mr. Mitchell and his sidekick Turnip who blows a mean harmonica.  </p>
<p>If you&#8217;re looking a place to cater your upcoming holiday gathering, let me recommend The Pit.  If you&#8217;re down in the dumps, let me recommend The Pit.  If you&#8217;re happy and you know it, let me recommend The Pit.</p>
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		<title>By: Fuzzy</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Mar 2008 13:23:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;ve had lunch there twice now, with 2 separate parties of folks that I wanted to have try it.   I was a big fan of Ed Mitchell&#039;s old restaurant, and also enjoyed his bbq at a couple of catering functions around the state. 

I grew up locally, it has not been unknown for our family or for folks we know to do our own hog at times, and I&#039;ve eaten at one time or another most of the barbeque in eastern NC in the past 40 years.  In fact, I&#039;m an old die-hard eastern NC bbq fan, who believes that even though that stuff in Lexington may be good pork, you shouldn&#039;t call it bbq, so that&#039;s how extreme I am.  Bear all this in mind. 

The atmosphere at The Pit is kind of cavernous and cold, it&#039;s a big industrial box.  I don&#039;t need it fancy (note that I enjoy Holden&#039;s) but when the restaurant isn&#039;t busy it is rather odd.  One lunch they were *very* busy, and it warmed the place right up. 

We did not enjoy the bar either time, one was a business lunch, and the other was a personal luncheon in the middle of the business day. 

The meats overall were fine.  People I have been with sampled the pulled and chopped whole hog, the brisket, and both styles of ribs, as well as the fish.  I didn&#039;t find the bbq much better than Coopers or Holdens, and the ribs were not done in a style I appreciate, but overall they received good reviews from everyone.

The biscuits the first time out were excellent:  fresh, hot, with a superior texture not often found in commercial biscuits, and just the right size (i.e., not so darn big).  The second time I was there the biscuits were clearly reheated and had gotten hard on the outside and mushy on the inside.  There is no excuse for serving reheated biscuits.

The buns of two people who got sandwiches were quite large, which is forgivable, and quite hard, which is not.  Bbq buns shouldn&#039;t be hard like french bread, at least not where I or the other native North Carolinians who were there come from.   

The hushpuppies were &quot;acceptable&quot;.  Totally generic, which is less than I expect from any place associated with Ed Mitchell.  I&#039;m not even sure they weren&#039;t made from a mix, which is weird since hushpuppies are one of the simplest things on earth. 

The coleslaw was a split decision.  Half the people at the table thought it was just fine each time.  On query, it turned out that people who were raised in eastern NC did not like the slaw, wanted &quot;barbeque slaw&quot; and would not put it on their bbq sandwich.  The others liked it a lot and praised it.  I want chopped cabbage with none of that purple stuff in it, some sweet pickle and pickle juice, celery seed, some vinegar and little or no &quot;salad dressing&quot; (what some folks call mayonaise). 

The other vegetables were quite good, and the brussel sprouts did get rave reviews each time.  

The service was, frankly, terrible.  Both visits took over an hour for lunch, which is unacceptable to working people.  Both visits we asked for biscuits and hushpuppies when we sat down, and both times we were stonewalled and informed that they only come on the plate.   After waiting over 20 minutes for any food to arrive we were told that we would be brought some, but then they didn&#039;t come.  Ever.  We had to ask for butter for the table, twice, after the food arrived, in order to get any, mostly too late.  In fact, one meal we never did get hushpuppies at all.

Waiting times for each phase of the meal were extended.  It took nearly as long to get a check after we were done as it took to get the food, and then like 6-8 minutes (by now we were all counting) to get the bill back after we presented the card.  And this in a restaurant which has gone from busy busy to nearly empty by the time we were checking out.

It was odd that the &quot;sides&quot; were not listed on the menu, they had to be recited in order for us to get them and we had to ask when they came to take our order, which had already taken so long we didn&#039;t want to risk asking them to come back in a minute.

The disappointment by our waiter that we were not ordering alcohol at lunch was palatable.

I give it two stars, mostly for the bbq itself, and the vegetables.  

I&#039;ll go back, the next time I&#039;m not in a hurry, and have time for a drink, and if I&#039;m taking people who want a dining experience.  But if I&#039;m going for a working lunch in Raleigh and want BBQ, I&#039;ll go to Clyde Coopers next time where I get served in 10 minutes with significantly less price, where the food is almost as good and the slaw is BBQ slaw.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve had lunch there twice now, with 2 separate parties of folks that I wanted to have try it.   I was a big fan of Ed Mitchell&#8217;s old restaurant, and also enjoyed his bbq at a couple of catering functions around the state. </p>
<p>I grew up locally, it has not been unknown for our family or for folks we know to do our own hog at times, and I&#8217;ve eaten at one time or another most of the barbeque in eastern NC in the past 40 years.  In fact, I&#8217;m an old die-hard eastern NC bbq fan, who believes that even though that stuff in Lexington may be good pork, you shouldn&#8217;t call it bbq, so that&#8217;s how extreme I am.  Bear all this in mind. </p>
<p>The atmosphere at The Pit is kind of cavernous and cold, it&#8217;s a big industrial box.  I don&#8217;t need it fancy (note that I enjoy Holden&#8217;s) but when the restaurant isn&#8217;t busy it is rather odd.  One lunch they were *very* busy, and it warmed the place right up. </p>
<p>We did not enjoy the bar either time, one was a business lunch, and the other was a personal luncheon in the middle of the business day. </p>
<p>The meats overall were fine.  People I have been with sampled the pulled and chopped whole hog, the brisket, and both styles of ribs, as well as the fish.  I didn&#8217;t find the bbq much better than Coopers or Holdens, and the ribs were not done in a style I appreciate, but overall they received good reviews from everyone.</p>
<p>The biscuits the first time out were excellent:  fresh, hot, with a superior texture not often found in commercial biscuits, and just the right size (i.e., not so darn big).  The second time I was there the biscuits were clearly reheated and had gotten hard on the outside and mushy on the inside.  There is no excuse for serving reheated biscuits.</p>
<p>The buns of two people who got sandwiches were quite large, which is forgivable, and quite hard, which is not.  Bbq buns shouldn&#8217;t be hard like french bread, at least not where I or the other native North Carolinians who were there come from.   </p>
<p>The hushpuppies were &#8220;acceptable&#8221;.  Totally generic, which is less than I expect from any place associated with Ed Mitchell.  I&#8217;m not even sure they weren&#8217;t made from a mix, which is weird since hushpuppies are one of the simplest things on earth. </p>
<p>The coleslaw was a split decision.  Half the people at the table thought it was just fine each time.  On query, it turned out that people who were raised in eastern NC did not like the slaw, wanted &#8220;barbeque slaw&#8221; and would not put it on their bbq sandwich.  The others liked it a lot and praised it.  I want chopped cabbage with none of that purple stuff in it, some sweet pickle and pickle juice, celery seed, some vinegar and little or no &#8220;salad dressing&#8221; (what some folks call mayonaise). </p>
<p>The other vegetables were quite good, and the brussel sprouts did get rave reviews each time.  </p>
<p>The service was, frankly, terrible.  Both visits took over an hour for lunch, which is unacceptable to working people.  Both visits we asked for biscuits and hushpuppies when we sat down, and both times we were stonewalled and informed that they only come on the plate.   After waiting over 20 minutes for any food to arrive we were told that we would be brought some, but then they didn&#8217;t come.  Ever.  We had to ask for butter for the table, twice, after the food arrived, in order to get any, mostly too late.  In fact, one meal we never did get hushpuppies at all.</p>
<p>Waiting times for each phase of the meal were extended.  It took nearly as long to get a check after we were done as it took to get the food, and then like 6-8 minutes (by now we were all counting) to get the bill back after we presented the card.  And this in a restaurant which has gone from busy busy to nearly empty by the time we were checking out.</p>
<p>It was odd that the &#8220;sides&#8221; were not listed on the menu, they had to be recited in order for us to get them and we had to ask when they came to take our order, which had already taken so long we didn&#8217;t want to risk asking them to come back in a minute.</p>
<p>The disappointment by our waiter that we were not ordering alcohol at lunch was palatable.</p>
<p>I give it two stars, mostly for the bbq itself, and the vegetables.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;ll go back, the next time I&#8217;m not in a hurry, and have time for a drink, and if I&#8217;m taking people who want a dining experience.  But if I&#8217;m going for a working lunch in Raleigh and want BBQ, I&#8217;ll go to Clyde Coopers next time where I get served in 10 minutes with significantly less price, where the food is almost as good and the slaw is BBQ slaw.</p>
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		<title>By: Varmint</title>
		<link>http://varmintbites.com/2008/01/22/the-pit-is-great-and-theyre-open-for-lunch/#comment-772</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Feb 2008 13:29:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Greg Cox gave The Pit 3-1/2 stars today.  It&#039;s interesting that the review came so soon after the restaurant&#039;s opening two months ago.  He admitted in the review that any problems he had  may have been due to &quot;growing pains.&quot;  I wonder why he reviewed this place so quickly after its opening.  And frankly, it&#039;s better than 3-1/2 stars, particularly on his &quot;sliding scale&quot; that takes into account dining value.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Greg Cox gave The Pit 3-1/2 stars today.  It&#8217;s interesting that the review came so soon after the restaurant&#8217;s opening two months ago.  He admitted in the review that any problems he had  may have been due to &#8220;growing pains.&#8221;  I wonder why he reviewed this place so quickly after its opening.  And frankly, it&#8217;s better than 3-1/2 stars, particularly on his &#8220;sliding scale&#8221; that takes into account dining value.</p>
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		<title>By: Cheryl</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Cheryl]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2008 14:16:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Oh, and Cheryl, Ed said that he is working on the hush puppy recipe. He knows they haven’t been very good.&quot;

Hmm...that gives me incentive to go back then.  Since puppies are a staple at &#039;cue places, I thought the ones we had must have been left over and they hadn&#039;t had time to make more (because of being off for Christmas).  Maybe he needs to consult with Malawry....]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Oh, and Cheryl, Ed said that he is working on the hush puppy recipe. He knows they haven’t been very good.&#8221;</p>
<p>Hmm&#8230;that gives me incentive to go back then.  Since puppies are a staple at &#8216;cue places, I thought the ones we had must have been left over and they hadn&#8217;t had time to make more (because of being off for Christmas).  Maybe he needs to consult with Malawry&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: phoebe</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2008 19:06:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[i&#039;m only going to be able to get take out when I go this Friday...can you guys give me some suggestions?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i&#8217;m only going to be able to get take out when I go this Friday&#8230;can you guys give me some suggestions?</p>
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		<title>By: Varmint</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2008 18:29:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Oh, and Cheryl, Ed said that he is working on the hush puppy recipe.  He knows they haven&#039;t been very good.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, and Cheryl, Ed said that he is working on the hush puppy recipe.  He knows they haven&#8217;t been very good.</p>
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		<title>By: Varmint</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2008 18:28:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[OK, I had the brussel sprouts at lunch today, and they were fantastic.  Their lunch business has really picked up, so we had to sit at the bar -- boy, I wanted to sample one of the craft beers they had on tap!

I also had a chance to chat with Ed Mitchell today, and he&#039;s pretty damn happy that everything is going so well.  So am I.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK, I had the brussel sprouts at lunch today, and they were fantastic.  Their lunch business has really picked up, so we had to sit at the bar &#8212; boy, I wanted to sample one of the craft beers they had on tap!</p>
<p>I also had a chance to chat with Ed Mitchell today, and he&#8217;s pretty damn happy that everything is going so well.  So am I.</p>
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		<title>By: Cheryl</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Cheryl]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jan 2008 19:22:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Here&#039;s another vote for the brussels sprouts.  Speaking of sides, I ordered the bean salad, which I assumed would be traditional 3-bean salad served at other BBQ places and widely found in the South.  The Pit, however, has a different take on bean salad:  blanched green beans and cherry tomatoes/tomato bits with bleu cheese dressing.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s another vote for the brussels sprouts.  Speaking of sides, I ordered the bean salad, which I assumed would be traditional 3-bean salad served at other BBQ places and widely found in the South.  The Pit, however, has a different take on bean salad:  blanched green beans and cherry tomatoes/tomato bits with bleu cheese dressing.</p>
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		<title>By: Susan</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jan 2008 14:15:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Everyone absolutely has to have the brussels sprouts. Even if you don&#039;t like sprouts, you will love these. I promise you.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Everyone absolutely has to have the brussels sprouts. Even if you don&#8217;t like sprouts, you will love these. I promise you.</p>
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		<title>By: Cheryl</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jan 2008 23:30:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Geez......sounds like your experience was a whole lot better than ours when we went on the evening of December 26.  I&#039;m hoping that part of the problem was simply that this was the day after a major holiday....not a good time to visit any restaurant for the first time, especially a new restaurant.  Our chopped whole hog was tender, but appeared to have been drenched not in vinegar-based sauce but straight vinegar....gack!  My sides were OK, no complaint there.  The hushpuppies were the worst I&#039;ve had in my life, bar none, and I&#039;m a native who&#039;s eaten lots of &#039;puppies.  I can&#039;t figure out what the chef(s) could have done to make them so bad.  My guess was that they were fried up a few days before Christmas, put in the freezer, then thawed out in a microwave the night we were there.  Apparently The Pit has improved significantly in the last several weeks to merit such a glowing review from Mr. V, who has a very discriminating palate when it comes to &#039;cue.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Geez&#8230;&#8230;sounds like your experience was a whole lot better than ours when we went on the evening of December 26.  I&#8217;m hoping that part of the problem was simply that this was the day after a major holiday&#8230;.not a good time to visit any restaurant for the first time, especially a new restaurant.  Our chopped whole hog was tender, but appeared to have been drenched not in vinegar-based sauce but straight vinegar&#8230;.gack!  My sides were OK, no complaint there.  The hushpuppies were the worst I&#8217;ve had in my life, bar none, and I&#8217;m a native who&#8217;s eaten lots of &#8216;puppies.  I can&#8217;t figure out what the chef(s) could have done to make them so bad.  My guess was that they were fried up a few days before Christmas, put in the freezer, then thawed out in a microwave the night we were there.  Apparently The Pit has improved significantly in the last several weeks to merit such a glowing review from Mr. V, who has a very discriminating palate when it comes to &#8216;cue.</p>
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		<title>By: ncn8tive</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jan 2008 22:37:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I ate there with friends for the first time last Friday and I agree completely!  I had the whole hog pork barbecue with cole slaw, mac-n-cheese and collards.   I agree with the comments above about the cole slaw and mac-n-cheese.  And I liked the collards even though they had a touch of sugar which I don&#039;t put in mine...all was better after I doused them with a bit of the vinegar sauce.  I *really* liked my friend&#039;s brussels sprouts even better...they were sauted, with a just little char caramelizing the edges...mmm-mmm.  Everyone else at the table loved their food with one minor exception.  We all thought the blue potato salad was on the weird side, mainly only because it was so unexpected.  Without asking for a description, we all just assumed that &quot;blue&quot; probably meant that it was a creamy style potato salad that had some kind of blue cheese in it.  Turns out it was made from actual blue potatoes in a vinegar dressing...think pickled blue potatoes.  Some liked them some didn&#039;t...though that&#039;s no fault of the potato salad.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I ate there with friends for the first time last Friday and I agree completely!  I had the whole hog pork barbecue with cole slaw, mac-n-cheese and collards.   I agree with the comments above about the cole slaw and mac-n-cheese.  And I liked the collards even though they had a touch of sugar which I don&#8217;t put in mine&#8230;all was better after I doused them with a bit of the vinegar sauce.  I *really* liked my friend&#8217;s brussels sprouts even better&#8230;they were sauted, with a just little char caramelizing the edges&#8230;mmm-mmm.  Everyone else at the table loved their food with one minor exception.  We all thought the blue potato salad was on the weird side, mainly only because it was so unexpected.  Without asking for a description, we all just assumed that &#8220;blue&#8221; probably meant that it was a creamy style potato salad that had some kind of blue cheese in it.  Turns out it was made from actual blue potatoes in a vinegar dressing&#8230;think pickled blue potatoes.  Some liked them some didn&#8217;t&#8230;though that&#8217;s no fault of the potato salad.</p>
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